11/21/2022 2:39 PM. We're interested in some people who might be leaving and the reason why I say it like that. Quite frankly, you can go to the next slide, please. So that's why we had to go get money. Others seem to embrace it as security actually gave me the hardest time about this program because they thought that they were already doing counterintelligence. As a reminder, this web and R is being recorded. And I remember the comments at the time and that was. Now we're going to be focused on and communications suggested that we have a focus group. Great good stuff you know another question that came up in a couple places is on the words and the meanings. We have a common connection. The group that I mentioned in says Insider Threat subcommittee. /F3 16 0 R %PDF-1.5 So like when I give a presentation to the board. How did? ", Three years ago, I decided I wanted to get more involved in my local community and give back to those less fortunate than me., I always tell my soldiers, I may be your leader, but Im nothing without you. But it also includes workplace violence on the scale of a Nadal Hassan or an Aaron Alexis. In bold and capitalized to me is the most important bullet. Once we identified our potential risk indicators, then we made a subjective decision of how we would wait those Pris next thing we had to do is OK. Where is this data in the company? 1 0 obj I will tell you who gave me the hardest time after. Quite frankly, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not necessarily a good thing either. OK, because we're if you steal our intellectual property or our research and development data, it might give you a jump start relative to. We're looking for risk. Furthermore, transitioning service members and Veterans often hold high clearances needed for some of our Special Access Programs and are frequently experts in many of Lockheed Martins critical skillsets., I believe its every transitioned service members call to help our brother and sisters cross the bridge from military to civilian life. And the other thing that didn't resonate with me that 35 years I spent in the government 'cause I didn't really think about it much is brand and reputation. /Font << He's on the Board of directors for the International Association of the Chief Police and it as if that were not enough. Australia English . Privacy Terms of Use EU and UK Data Protection Notice Cookies. Is takes privacy into consideration? Another selling point to a robust, effective program is when executed well. Read More. Or to the steering committee search is one of the first people I mentioned right off the bat because they provide about 50% of our leads that comes out of the Rams tool are from SERT. On the need to involve them and what we needed from the FBI and Oh my God, you wouldn't believe that pushback that I got from general counsel initially. Click here to see the career opportunities in your area. Again, Doug, thank you for the interview. << So some people say well, did he get prosecuted well? How do you guys cope with what has been traditionally a bit of a stove fight between what I would call traditional national security and counterintelligence an IT security or information security? Well, our CEO wanted us to make sure that we were messaging correctly to the employee workforce relative to this new program. And just how critical their partnership was to our office to our success. It knows that, OK, the tools designed like that, so the analyst can't readily see Doug Thomas is information because he's overseas. Like I said, this programs are scalable, so if you're a small company or a medium sized company, maybe you don't invest in a tool if you just hire the right person. What I think my office brought to the table. But you also have to make them feel comforted that it's in line with their corporate values. A6 04F8>!&|aq@_4`frn6Ue-$b~Md*=Z3)c6u$NBF$.q/s3H\ju|wX%QL? w7jx5=dW)5`"`l>(vj-7G0: H'iF[>%+Fk%"6~1OBiyca-";Jk&_NQdo:vBX5AiZa?SXM! Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something OK. And that has resonated with me greatly because I think privacy is a big deal. So that's it. These -- and many other angles -- are all correct but individually insufficient. Anomalous or atypical behavior? What is a very large and expansive challenge? Do you have a final bit of advice with us? Who are maybe just starting program? All Rights Reserved. I made an appointment with the CIO and the CIS so I could go in and sit down with them and talk to them about who I was. Oh excuse me good afternoon everyone. OK, it's OK to go to another company. The other thing that we did is we had like I said we had communications on there and they helped us greatly with a communications plan and I'll get into that a little bit. Tambre - Cyber Security Engineer Tambre So then what we did is we saw him. The Exchange of information in the cooperation. All the data that's in the tool is anonymized, so the analysts, by the way, really have four analysts for over 100,000 employees. His primary role is to identify intelligence and terrorism threats to Lockheed Martin Corporation and work with internal and external partners to mitigate those threats. Large purchases, liens, and bankruptcies. In addition to his years on the faculty at Penn State, Thomas has had the pleasure of serving as a visiting faculty member at INSEAD (in Fontainebleau, France), the Johnson Graduate School of Management at Cornell University and the Darden School at the University of Virginia. /Length 3732 You have 11 lessons and I think you know for some of us even one of those 11 lessons Feels like a pretty daunting task. American Conference Institute has not authorized the use or sale of its list by any outside organization. It can mean a piece of classified information. 2 0 obj Read More . Jason is a radio frequency engineer overseeing the procurement, assembly, and production of parts on the shop floor. Insider threat isn't just an IT problem or a security problem -- it's an interdisciplinary focus that demands communication and coordination from everyone. OK access could be critical assets depending on their accesses. Alright, that's excellent advice, Doug. /Length 2057 This just depicts our organizational structure, where it's a centralized mission for sure, but decentralized execution. You will get resistance when you first introduced this topic to whoever. As a mechanical engineer, Becky designs full-scale air vehicle models. What I tell people is until you shine a spotlight on this problem set and what I mean by that is invest in at least one resource until you shine a spotlight on this problem that you have no clue what's walking out your door Done. Now there's a lot of times a typical behavior happens that's not concerning. There is a little bit of pain along with that, quite frankly. So I like this chart. In the room, and I did not want this program just on the we have 70,000 cleared employees. We have invested in developing and demonstrating hypersonic technology for over 30 years. Thomas received his M.S. So then that question did come up about authority. There's nothing wrong with that. Those people they didn't go through with it. The ramifications of this was. I've really beat to death the communications campaign, but I think what I want to leave you with this messaging is critical to your work. What's unique about the F35 that makes it the awesome machine it is. It's built, it's in desperate databases that never talk to each other, but the data is probably already in your company somewhere, so we had to identify where that data was, who the data owners were, and then we had to convince them why it was in everybody's best interest to work with us. OK, there is no way we're resourced to do. And shortly after we got here. And he said he was going to take it to the next company. As a working mother, Tambre enjoys the flexibility her schedule and leadership team provide. It has allowed them to connect and form lasting bonds., Everyone doesnt always respond positively at first when bringing new ideas to the table. Said we're on solid ground. For sometime. Although I say that the government is never not been penetrated in the in the entire time. Yeah excellent yeah number of questions about departments and working with other departments and a lot of large programs. But the reason why I wanted to keep kind of talents in the name. No, that's an airplane. You would expect that their insider threat organization would be robust and well-organized, and it is. Transformational, lifelong learning experiences to develop well-rounded leaders, drive growth in a changing market. You know that's just So what piece? Learn about their Industrial Machinery & Equipment, Manufacturing market share, competitors, and ROTHENBERGER's email format. Enter information into their system immediately. /Filter /FlateDecode But going back to the governance structure, I really like this because although there's some pain that goes along with having this strong oversight over you on a regular basis, I think I think it makes our program and the execution of our program better. But we put them underneath the wing of somebody who's got. For those of you who have attended our webinars before, you know we always ask a poll question about this time, so we're going to quickly present a poll to you. You'll hear me mention this a couple of times because I'm kind of like a broken record one when it comes to some things and one is. endobj It's insider. Yeah, so I, I think that's an excellent question whoever asked that. Everybody can respond to the pole and then we'll jump right in, but. /Kids [ 3 0 R 5 0 R ] Mr. Thomas holds a Bachelor's degree in Asian Studies. Is this so the analysts have no clue who they're looking at. As I mentioned, Doug is counterintelligence operations in corporate investigations director at Lockheed Martin. Development for leaders and high-performers, designed to meet your organization's unique needs. My boss says I'm opaque, transparent what he means by that is I'm very well our office. Then on this call HR was difficult at first because I'll tell you nobody covets their information better than HR. It requires a lot of liaison, that's for sure. I think that's important that audit comes in and ensures that we're executing the mission based on the concept of operations. Now I do like expanding on this cell and this is what makes me question my decisions previously on Things, Insider threat or is it insider risk? It doesn't matter it be. If you think about what their role is, they're given a boatload of money to do research and development and studies an analysis. Earn the Darden MBA while advancing your career at our UVA Darden DC Metro location. Not quite as big as Lockheed Martin. . Doug is based out of La Plata, Maryland, United States and works in the Defense & Space industry. /Type /Catalog And the business areas are very vocal about the fact that we have a dedicated Countertenors programmer. That's kind of like sacred ground. As an engineer, I love this challenge because I am always learning, creating and seeking solutions that benefit the system around me and the people next to me., I wondered how to fit this role into my already busy life, but my co-workers were so encouraging. OK, but companies do. Dardens deferred MBA admissions pathway for college seniors and full-time masters students. Designed to help the U.S. and allies leverage emerging technologies to create a resilient multi-domain network. OK, but this HR business partner came to us and said, hey Doug Thomas is getting ready to leave. But I let them know that look, I have. So I don't think I'm airing dirty laundry on this, 'cause it's pretty known when I first got here, the relationship between our CSO and our CIO and CSO Was It was OK, it wasn't flourishing, that's for sure. What is that widget? Manager, Test Engineering ASC at Lockheed Martin . It's also about good governance. The tool we call it risk analysis and mitigation system. I'm thankful to work for a company that puts those individuals first, and we never forget who we are working for as they serve our country.". We have first. Every month ThreatSwitch hosts a webinar on a topic of interest to the security and compliance community. And do we really do counterintelligence? He said he didn't do any kind of a download like that. 'cause again, I came from the government, so I'm not really the softest approach when I'm in the government and what that word was is we had in there that people should report. If you're a company this size and quite frankly you don't have the bandwidth to actually manage that kind of, uh, a list of critical assets. And they all liked it. I had phenomenal accesses to me. We're looking for people who may be at risk for exploitation or from their own sake because they're disgruntled, so I'm not wedded to any term whatsoever. OK, and that is publicly available select. I'm pretty sure I speak for everybody to say when I say that there are a number of outstanding Nuggets, so thank you for that overview and we do want to open up the questions. The tool is done. You might just start off with one person and then and then hopefully you'll have some winds that will come along to generate. UVA Darden SDI and we socialize it with the CSA and DNI and the FBI. The other 50% are human behavior stuff. Navigation Icon. We have a great guest, so that's it's really been fantastic. Employees that don't trust the program won't participate. Here Chief technology Officer, so that's really kind of where we get because they're not just focused on the next generation weapon systems, they're also focused on today's. We're not collecting anything new. So how I approach this problem set an the way the slides are patterned if you will, is I given a lot of presentations over the last 6 seven years on this topic. %PDF-1.5 Requires a human being to analyze the data, but that we rely a lot on the tool. To audit our program on an annual basis. Communications ethics an information security to come up with a concept of operations that was legally sign in regulatory sound that describe what the functions actually are and what we aren't going to do with it. In this capacity, he provided executive leadership to 3,200 personnel located in 220 offices throughout the world who were responsible for investigating felony-level investigations, as well as conducting counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations. Find contact information for ROTHENBERGER. And so he reached out to them and they all came in and I asked for the top 10. 1100 Wilson Boulevard The other thing that we did is we identified our companies critical assets are critical personnel who work on those critical assets. OK, and then it's fine. They're really kind of two questions here. The IC Intelligence Committee has been, uh, alive and well. OK, HR does not let that information go well. That's part one, and then in general there are other departments that you find that are most challenging, or require the most work and to get along with, and we promised not to tell them. The people executing the mission us in the business areas, executing the mission, and it helps the leadership understand that hey, we are executing the mission. Previous to his role within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Mr. Thomas was a Special Agent for 25 years with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. >> The company just dropped his two week resignation notice and he's getting ready to go to company X. So when I was in the government I had access. Well, you know what? Again, if you have. Learn how we are strengthening the economies, industries and communities of our global partner nations. This office actually brings to the table. That means: Our adversaries know this, which makes it even more important that mid-sized companies organize and operate their insider threat program effectively. OK, it's amazing how much data companies and government agencies collect on their employees and it just sits there OK? We collect and report an awfully lot of metrics. /XObject << UVA Darden School of Business. >> So like I said, we knew we had to build our own tool. 11/25/2022 2:48 AM. In fiscal year 2019 Lockheed Martin was the top recipient of Department of Defense contract dollars. On the next generation product. Last Update. Misgovernance this to me is a big deal and I'm going to bring it up again later because I think it's I think it's. ", "I have been on incredible teams filled with mentors of all levels and backgrounds that are willing to help the next generation learn and grow in their career. They weren't doing kind of balance, so it's just kind of an interesting thing to break down business as usual mindsets. And if you're trying to come up with the terms to name your program that get the point across without, you know, communicating you know, concerned among the employees? That includes: Throughout Doug's talk, he came back to a critical, often-missed perspective: without transparency and trust, insider threat programs won't work. Both my Mom and Dad were in the United States Navy, so for me, it means so much more., Being in a rotational program has enabled me to become more flexible and comfortable with change. Or maybe we think about behavioral analysis on our corporate network. ', After a few years working in Operations, I made the decision to get my associate degree in industrial maintenance. So what has to happen is based on whatever concern we might have that wasn't generated by the tool. Learn from Darden faculty through our online courses, available worldwide. Our corporate headquarters, which is why I said, sets the tone with the priorities. Um, I'll tell you. His office was responsible for multiple documents due annually to the President and the Congress, such as the National Threat Identification Prioritization Assessment, which informed the President on the gravest intelligence threats facing the United States, and the National Counterintelligence Strategy, which informed the President of how the Intelligence Community would mitigate those threats. You've got an oversight internal audit, risking compliance committee. I mean you guys have been at this for awhile. That's how powerful the tool is. :I-O {hb1*Apf3H,*}~}0?Sw+[wydSyUDTNvv>LJMS'/ hBlSCdYY|2Yxs76T Kl&Sa Engineers are challenged to look at the system surrounding them and find solutions to complex problems. /MediaBox [0 0 792 612] stream He knows his stuff an I AM for one. Insider threat is about people. << Douglas D. Thomas Director, Counterintelligence Operations & Corporate Investigations July 18, 2017 Counterintelligence & Insider Threat Detection National Insider Threat Special Interest Group. Pushing these great Veterans to open roles and helping hiring managers understand the immense value of a Veteran Hire brings a significant pride. So I wanted to make sure that our program covered every employee in the company. More Story Keeping Ahead of Ready With Next Generation Launch Systems Industries from retail to banking are preparing for the future by focusing on the modernization of their technologies and assets. Initially, because all the data is anonymized in the tool, so that's why I say we don't profile people for profiling behavior. This is people who have access to information, facilities, networks, people, resources. He was the counterintelligence advisor to the Director of National Intelligence and the President of the United States. 2 Lockheed Martin Counterintelligence COUNTERINTELLIGENCE Threat Analysis Training & Awareness CI Support Services Investigations Insider How? To 10. Doug Thomas is theHenry E. McWane Professor of Business Administration at the Darden School of Business. As a reminder, everything that Doug talked about in the slides will be available on our resources page. /Count 2 That was a question that popped up when we were writing the concept of operations again with ethics and legal and privacy and HR. And it's also about communicating with the employees. Who knows this problem set like the back of their hand who can put together some great training and awareness and can tell stories OK? So these are the categories of metrics that we collect. So what works for those gaps? So it may not be very expensive is what I'm saying and you started off with a proof of concept, but what sold the company I think is when you start talking about the trends throughout the United States, the statistics relative to the loss of intellectual property and RND data and how much it's costing the United States economy. So be on the lookout. Uh, a typical behavior? Or identify the weights you assign to it and then the other subjective pieces. On a pretty regular basis, we brief it quarterly to our steering committee and we brief at annually to our Board of Directors. It always keeps me on my toes. All the data in the tool is objective data. Where did we come up with this? You better have cyber onboard security, HR, ethics, legal and communications on board. Learn how we are strengthening the economies, industries and communities of our global partner nations. Yeah, I think that's another good question and I'm kinda gonna sound like I'm bipolar on this answer. You move over to the second column development. /Img1 8 0 R Have some minor wins, prove the concept if you will where we are today, certainly is not where we were seven years ago with this program. OK, I get the information about people gonna be put on a pip before they're put on a pip. India English . Departments that aren't bought in will ignore it. That's about 1000 things on there. While we're doing that, if you could submit your questions via the Q&A button in the Zoom Webinar tool an we will start jumping in and getting it. Lucio builds air vehicle models as a laboratory mechanic, converting conceptual drawings into reality. They were doing OPSEC operational secure. ", "The opportunities provided by Lockheed Martin have changed the direction of my path. >> About this program. The reason why these 2 are in the same office. /Contents 4 0 R He's being terminated from our company and you're on notice. We have a phenomenal turn out which is not surprising given Doug's expertise. 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